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text mean line in greek original &lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I. people in the play&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;eteokles &lt;/strong&gt;(son of oidipus)&lt;br /&gt;watchmen as &lt;strong&gt;messenger&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;choir &lt;/strong&gt;o parthenon&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ismene &lt;/strong&gt;(sister of polyneikes and eteokles)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;antigone &lt;/strong&gt;(sister of polyneikes and eteokles)&lt;br /&gt;one &lt;strong&gt;herold&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;II. brief description&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;laios curse fullfilles itself&lt;br /&gt;eteokles and polyneikes son of oidipus die both speered by sword on their left side&lt;br /&gt;one defends theben the other comes to conquer&lt;br /&gt;eteokles and polyneikes names carry a symbol eteokles means truthfull polyneikes means full-o-trouble-seeking&lt;br /&gt;instead of a full army invasion against every gate one hero walks in and invites one from thebes to match him&lt;br /&gt;they swear by the god of ares to tear down the city that has ares as it´s protective god&lt;br /&gt;description of the shields and their meaning symbolic important every person stands for something that is described in the shield&lt;br /&gt;thebes city of ares with seven gates&lt;br /&gt;antigone wants to bury her dead brother despite the city council´s wish to left him unburried&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;III. storyline&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;eteokles monologue 0-38 mentions the rumor of an achaia army marching towards theben&lt;br /&gt;watchman arrives talks to eteokles 39- mentions how seven heros swear by the god ares to tear down the city or drown i their own blood 39-48 mentions they choose by draw who gets wich gate to conquer already marching into that city 58 eteokles praying to all gods above and under the earth to protect the city mentions a city that lives well only prayes to the gods 69&lt;br /&gt;choir cry of incoming army 78&lt;br /&gt;choir cry to zeus and ares for to help kadmos city against the army of argos 115&lt;br /&gt;pray to poseidon aphrodithe pallas athene artemis apollon hera 130 mentioning of ancestory to kypris aphrodithe&lt;br /&gt;mention the assaulting force have foreign language 170&lt;br /&gt;eteokles 181 blames the choir to cheer down the mood of the troops her crying and whining descurages the soldiers&lt;br /&gt;mentions 199 stoning as punishment who does not obey his commands be it woman or man&lt;br /&gt;203 choir mention eteokles son of oidipus child of connection between oidipus and his mother&lt;br /&gt;eteokles says men on the field 230 has to obey for sacrifice to gods women should stay in their house quite and wait&lt;br /&gt;244 don´t blame the murder and pain of battlefield it is ares playing ground eteokles says&lt;br /&gt;245 eteokles quarrel with the female choir continues blames her fear and crying lowers the mood of the troops&lt;br /&gt;265 mentions his promis to the gods i case of a glory&lt;br /&gt;283 says it will look for six others to protect the seven gates of the city himself as the seventh&lt;br /&gt;287 cry of choir blame of battle&lt;br /&gt;375 messenger arrives reports to eteokles what he saw dialogue between messenger and eteokles who will be at wich gate and their shields with their symbols and eteokles reply to the symbols and who he will he place against the assaulting soldiers seven chosend by draw - mention tydeus at proitos gate asks eteokles who he will display against him&lt;br /&gt;397 reply of eteokles astakos son he will put against him called melanippos called countries child protector of his mother eteokles is not impressed with the images and the cloth you need a spear he replies and the sky and night might be double symbol doom for him instead the enemy&lt;br /&gt;422 kapaneus took electra gate tells messenger describes his shield tells his blashemic attitude against zeus 430 even zeus thunder and bolt could not stop him as always increase of dramaturgy with who could stop him&lt;br /&gt;437 reply of eteokles says he is great in words and in blaspheming god zeus it would be turned against him polyphontes and his fierey temperament would smack him down artemis´ beloved person&lt;br /&gt;457 choire names third eteoklos at neistic gate describes how he will storm the gate with his masses description of the shield&lt;br /&gt;472 eteokles replies megareus kreon´s son never afraid of horses sounds would counter him courage will counter him&lt;br /&gt;486 Hippomedon a giant in height on the fourth gate&lt;br /&gt;502 hyperbios oinop´s son will counter hippomedon has zeus on his shield as zeus was always superior to any god in battle believe in god will counter fear of battle&lt;br /&gt;526 parthenopaios at the fith gate young arcadian wild full of great words&lt;br /&gt;550 a man will counter him not talking but doing aktor&lt;br /&gt;568 amphiaraos at homoloic gate querrelseeker thyname translated from greek has no painting on his shield considered as a bright strategist will not appear one way but be&lt;br /&gt;620 lasthenes will counter him young in age but aged in wisdom&lt;br /&gt;631 polyneikes at the seventh gate with dike on his shield will counter his brother defender of the city eteokles&lt;br /&gt;653-676 mourning of eteokles classic tradegy whining of a character oh my parents curse oidipus curse fullfills today he sings&lt;br /&gt;677 choir leader sings every blood spill can forgiven after worship to gods but bloodspill among brother neither time nor worship will heal dissolve&lt;br /&gt;695 oidipus curse tells me says eteokles soon death is better than late one&lt;br /&gt;709 full of anger is oidipus curse demanding his death saw in his dream the dissolvement of his fathers country legacy says eteokles to choir leader in dialogue&lt;br /&gt;714 choir leader urges please master don´t go to the seventh gate&lt;br /&gt;720 choir alone sings 742 choir mentions old curse in third generation made by laios loxias told at pythos temple save he will the city if he remains childless laios ignores the speach 750 but lust lead him to make a child oidipus was his name 755 mentions marriage of oedipus with his mother and him killing his father laios 784 mentions he put out his eyes which was more beloved to him then his sons after he saw what he did to his mother and father 785 curse of oidipus that his sons will share his country with steel in their fists&lt;br /&gt;792 messenger arrives brings message saved is the city&lt;br /&gt;792-820 messenger and choir in exchange tell that the brothers children of oidipus are no more&lt;br /&gt;830 choir leader asks himself should i be glad for the saving of the city or mourn the dead of the brothers named in translation weapon - armed famous and querrellseeker eteokles and polyneikes&lt;br /&gt;875 hemi-choir singing in exchange A + B rephrasing the curse and development&lt;br /&gt;962 antigone and ismene sing in exchange mourn of brothers mentioning the double murder&lt;br /&gt;1005 messenger arrives to announce decisions of the city counsil eteokles weapon famous should be burried inside the city polyneikes trouble querrell seeker should be left outside the city borders without burrial food for the dogs&lt;br /&gt;1026 antigone defiant as father tells messenger she will despite decision of the counsil burry him&lt;br /&gt;1055 destiny erinnys have now judged the oidipus family sings choir&lt;br /&gt;1066 antigone choir A and polyneikes leave in one direction ismene choir B and eteokles in the other direction&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;IV. seven heros at seven gates and their shields symbols&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;tydeus at proitos gate&lt;/strong&gt; - the sky flamed with stars full moon moon most beautiful star eye of the night - the night symbol of death&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;kapaneus at electra gate&lt;/strong&gt; - shield shows a nude fire carrier image carrying a torch burning golden writing tells i burn the city&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;eteoklos at neistic gate&lt;/strong&gt; - armed man steps ahead a ladder to a tower his shield says not ares would throw him down from this tower&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;hippomedon at onka pallas gate&lt;/strong&gt; - typhon blows smoke brother of burning snakes winding on the ground symbol of fear&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;parthenopaios at borraic gate&lt;/strong&gt; - bloody red sphinx on his shield&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;amphiaraos at homoloic gate&lt;/strong&gt; - has no painting on his shield considered as a seer wise thinker&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;polyneikes at seventh gate&lt;/strong&gt; - has a golden shield with dike leading a golden boy armed 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href='http://erbilancientliterature44.blogspot.com/2009/09/seven-against-aeschylus.html' title='seven against - aeschylus'/><author><name>Erbil Kücük</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17166810123427001378</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fUhtYathMGA/TV7EmlZP8iI/AAAAAAAAACA/sCsSuqYL3_w/s220/erbilk.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1679327613344202992.post-6450268610166761225</id><published>2009-08-14T10:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-08-14T12:04:11.598-07:00</updated><title type='text'>persians</title><content type='html'>&lt;div align="justify"&gt;the numbers within the text mean the line of the original greek text as reference&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;he decides to invade greece after his friends in the palace mocked him that he did nothing to enhance the rule over the others and remains with what his father left to him&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;he shows boldness degrading a god while crossing the bosporos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;he thinks with overwhelming force regarding numbers he can beat the counterpart the counterpart beats him through tactic and whit despite being outnumbered&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;once a mighty emperor with the emperors clothes he returns from the battle with the clothes of an beggar&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;his mother speaks with his dead father his father gives comments why he lost the battle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;the author describes the battle scenes and names the royal who lost their lifes on the battle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;the author uses the usual dramatic rhetoric to enhance the dramaturgy of the play&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;there is no barbarian greek issue in this play no liberty of the greeks against the despotic persian the story concentrates itself on the tragic character of xerxes who allows that the people of the palace hit his vanity and proud and make him invade another country he does not respects the gods crossing the bosporos and thinks whith overwhelimg military might alone he can enforce his victory&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;as usual with the author there are only a few characters playing the play choir of the older atossa messenger ghost of dareios and xerxes as the main character&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;people in the drama choir of the elder atossa messenger ghost of dareios xerxes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;the play starts with an description of the event who went out with xerxes to invade the foreign country 15-60 here he lists the participants sung by the choir here he describes the cloth of the emperor as golden 5-10 he describes that he came with see and land forces 75-80 he describes that no one can hold out these military might huge in numbers huge in self confidence 85-100 he mentions that he felt in an entrapment of a god comes in sweet voices no one can avoid 93-100&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;his mother appears 159 choir talks to her she tells of her dreams 175-200 asks for its meaning the choir replies neither to good nor bad pray to the gods and ask for help call for your dead husband and ask him they said 215-220 she replies she will do as the dream reader demanded furhter asks where her son is going why he is going who is going with him&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;messenger comes to the choir to tell the news 249-255&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;choir mourning whining about the lost 260-300&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;messenger asked who survived the battle still he replies the important dead rulers 300-330 choir asked the messenger who is not dead 295 negative reference as too many are dead better to ask who survived instead of who is dead to show the huge amount of dead dramatisation of the devastating results of the battle&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;messenger tells how many ships where on each side according to the numbers the persians had to win replies a daimon prevented them to win 337&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;messenger tells how the battle started can´t explain wether it was a daimon or greek whit who started 353 but let a greek start the event&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;he follows with a description of the battle how it went and lost and what followed after the battle and how the fleeing soldiers died in greece and macedonia till 515&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;usual mourning of the choir till 597&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;atossa monologue 598 she says when some one life went well he thinks it will remain this way all along as soon as a desaster hit him he thinks it will all remain this way&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;she asks the choir to join her to ask the spirit of dareios from the dead to speak to her 620&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;choir sings mourns and begs the spirits of the aidos and dareios spirit to appear 623-680&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;dareios spirit apears 681&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;after choir refuses due to respect of the old emperor to speak out the catastrophy atossa takes the word and explains the events dareios replies and old zeus foreseeing is realized xerxes disrespected a god due trying to tame the bosporos and put chains on the river to make a transition of the troops possible the defeat is a vengeance of the god for disprespect of deity 740-752 gives not full responsiblity to xerxes unreason in youth proud as cause for his action disrespect of deity&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;atossa reduces his responsibility due to influence of bad friends in the palace causing him pain saying his father increased the realm he only uses the spear in the palace 753-758&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;dareios speech disrespect of deity plundering and destroying the temples and feel of superiority brought son to fall zeus is sending penalty to arrogance of everyone so tame yourselfs respect the gods moral appeal 800-842&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;atosse hears that her son went out in royal clothing full of glory now turns with devastated and beggar like clothing home with no glory and shimmer 845-852&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;choir dramatization sings of the former glory of the persian empire what countries felt under their rule names them all and returns to the unglory defeat of xerxes to enhance the dramatic description of the event 852-906&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;xerxes apears mourns his defeat mourns his destiny 908&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;choir joins xerxes mourning dramatization asks xerxes where his friends and loyals remain xerxes replies left all dead on hellas coasts on hellas grounds 918-1021&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div align="justify"&gt;choir and xerxes remain mourning and crying and singing about their destiny and tragedy 1021-1077&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1679327613344202992-6450268610166761225?l=erbilancientliterature44.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://erbilancientliterature44.blogspot.com/feeds/6450268610166761225/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=1679327613344202992&amp;postID=6450268610166761225&amp;isPopup=true' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1679327613344202992/posts/default/6450268610166761225'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' 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